theedge012

This is my attempt to take another stab at the debate. Essentially my outline follows as such: 1. Re-state eightfootmanchild's premise or argument as I understand it. Then adding my reason for finding fault with its limitations. 2. I answer specific questions and comments he has made toward my first set of videos. 3. I conclude by taking a new approach toward dismantling his premise. Essentially this time instead of offering a coherent ontology by his rules, I shift gears and present other "known" concepts that are just as difficult to describe in a physical sense. The idea is that he might conceed some defeat so long as I show him at least one other non-concept/concept. As promised...here is the link to Flatland, a video by Randall Niles (refelct7): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3646XO3ovWM .

Eightfootmanchild came back at me with some very good challenges, questions, and rebuttals. This is my attempt to take another stab at the debate. Essentially my outline follows as such: 1. Re-state eightfootmanchild's premise or argument as I understand it. Then adding my reason for finding fault with its limitations. 2. I answer specific questions and comments he has made toward my first set of videos. 3. I conclude by taking a new approach toward dismantling his premise. Essentially this time instead of offering a coherent ontology by his rules, I shift gears and present other "known" concepts that are just as difficult to describe in a physical sense. The idea is that he might conceed some defeat so long as I show him at least one other non-concept/concept. * This is another two part response. If you are actually interested in this discussion and want to weigh in on it, PLEASE take the time to watch the second installment. Otherwise you can only critique or agree with half of my claims. As always...I welcome your text or video responses!

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Reply to TheEdge012, pertaining to the subject of my last three videos.

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Often it is believed by both the atheist and the theist that our Bibles have been translated multiple times through the years. However, the reality is sobering and should create confidence for the believer while simultaneously shutting down this fallacy being perpetuated by the atheist camp. http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/how-many-times-was-your-bible-been-translated/ .

PLEASE SEE PART ONE FIRST http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHR6Q1Oq5WE The third and final point to Eightfootmanchild in my rebuttal of his video series. Please comment and jump in on the conversation!

Eightfootmanchild is a recently discovered channel for me as I found him through ProfMTH. I have watched two videos that you may need to view before truly understanding this reply. Warning: Some explicit language used Pt 1 of Eightfootmanchild's vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IyJp5dak9M Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT2OylENedo Despite my best efforts to make this into one ten minute video, the bulk of the content took over 13 minutes and needed to be split into two. So please watch the second part of this video for a proper ending to the rebuttal.

Part three and the conclusion of my testimony. I finally find materials that present the Christian Salvation Message in such a way that it gets my attention. In many ways this was an embarrassing realization much like what Peter must have felt as he realized that had walked with Christ for so many years but yet denied who he was as the rooster greeted the morning. Like him, I was appalled at my own ignorance but overwhelmed by my discovery...that though I was a wretch...He came to save and forgive me. In this video I mention a book that was key for me to read in order to understand Jesus fully and make an actual case for following Him whole-heartedly. The book is The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. To check the author and this book out in more detail visit this site: http://www.leestrobel.com Last but not least I tried something new here (a different filming style). Many other channels use this technique, so its nothing original on my part. While it's not bad for my first try, it may tend to get TOO choppy and for that I apologize. Please give me your feedback and let me know if you have questions. This experience was almost impossible to properly articulate and I would be more than happy to spend one on one time better explaining what I found and why I changed because of it. .

This is part two of my testimony. The title is just what it implies...a period of time where I was lost and looking for truth. Sadly I did as most of the world does and tried to fill the void with all kinds of carnal behaviors. Part three will post sometime next week and will conclude the series with how I finally came to Christ.